Thursday
15Jan2009

How to install the Windows 7 Beta on a Dell Mini9 Netbook

So I have one of the fairly new Dell Mini9 Netbooks that came out around Thanksgiving? Maybe earlier, I cannot remember. The only thing I do remember was waiting until Dell entered the Netbook market before buying a netbook. I could hardly wait! And I have been pretty happy with it so far. But... it has Windows XP on it. I wanted Vista on it but I knew better than to try that! So when Microsoft released the beta for Windows 7, and everyone talked about how much faster it was than Vista I thought I would try that on my Mini9.

BOOT DEVICE

So first thing, obviously there is no CD or DVD to install an OS from like on most laptops. You can buy one as an optional USB attachment, but why? So you will need to create a bootable USB Flash Drive with Windows 7 on it.

To do this:

You also MUST have a DVD copy of Vista to install the source files from the DVD to a USB flash drive:

  1. Insert your USB flash drive and enter the following commands: (please note this list assumes that your USB flash drive will be seen as disk 1. To confirm that it is type "list disk" after you've entered the DISKPART command) Otherwise you may wipe a different drive (such as your hard disk drive!)
  2. Type:


diskpart
select disk 1
clean
create partition primary
select partition 1
active
format fs=fat32 (this step can take a while...)
assign
exit


At this point your USB drive is formatted. DO NOT format the drive from within Windows. You MUST have a DVD copy of Vista to copy the source files from.

The final preparation step is to copy the installation files to your flash drive, this can be done by running the following command:
(Please note D: is the drive letter for the source files and E: is the drive letter for your flash drive, if they are different on your system you need to change them accordingly).
Exit DISKPART. Type:

xcopy D:\*.* /s/e/f E:\

Now your USB Key should be ready to go. So since the USB key is setup, you must now setup your Mini9 to boot from the USB drive. This proved a bit challenging. At first, I tried just hitting 0 during the POST and selecting one of the devices (external drive I think?) but it would always just boot to XP. So I assumed that was because it did not like that. Sometimes, it would even kind of hang during POST with the progress on the Dell screen at like 99%. So the next thing I tried was changing the boot order in the BIOS. I ended up after some trial and error moving the Hard drive down to the bottom in the boot sequence. I made ‘Removable Device’ and ‘External Device’ the top 2. Also, there was some question as to if they (the boot devices) were enabled or not. So if you see an exclamation next to the device – it is not enabled. So toggle it until there are no Exclamation Points. Once I did that, BANG! It booted right from the USB drive.

Once you set the BIOS this way, it should boot from the USB drive when you restart; and Windows 7 setup will begin.

SETUP

During the setup prompts I had it format the XP partition, and followed the rest of the prompts. The "Expanding Files" portion of setup took a bit of time (10-20 minutes?) but then it moved right along after that. Also note that by putting the USB Stick above the hard drive in the boot order will cause the machine to keep wanting to run setup if you leave the machine unattended. I came back to find mine at the select language screen, and hit next. Only to find that it was at the partition selection screen. I could see the drive was no longer empty, so I assumed that setup had started again by accident. So I removed my USB Key, and rebooted, and setup continued without incident.

After setup completed, after 30 minutes or so, It re-booted and my first prompt was to create a user account and set a computer name. I did this and hit next. It prompted me for a product key, I entered it and hit next. Then choose my Windows Update settings - next. Then set my Time Zone - next. Then... oddly, it immediately asked me which wireless network to join. So I selected my network, entered my WPA2 key and I was off.

Next I was prompted about something called a HomeGroup password. This looks interersting, I will need to research that. But I told it to skip that part since I have an SBS server. Then it prepared my desktop and eventually I was presented with a desktop! Sweet!

DRIVERS

Once the initial install was completed, my first task was to see how the drivers were looking. It saw my Wireless card without issue. And most everything appears to be working fine. There are only 3 things showing in the "Other Devices" tree of the Device Manager:

1. Base System Device

2. Base System Device

3. Unknown Device

Other than that, everything seems to work great. One of things showing up could be Bluetooth related because I have Bluetooth disabled in the BIOS. But then again, if it's disabled at the BIOS level, it should not show in the Device Manager? Oh well, seems to work fine so far.

BOOT TIMES

Boot time was around 30 seconds with Windows XP SP3. I cannot remember if that was until the hourglass went away on the desktop or just when the desktop showed up. I was not that detailed when timing it. Now mind you, I am just using my stopwatch on my Casio so this is no way an official time. So for these purposes, I just waited until I saw the full desktop. And it got there in 34.38 seconds. And interestingly enough, there WAS NO hourglass once the desktop showed. Is that some magic or what? It that some smoke and mirrors to make it seem faster? Who knows?

CONCLUSION

So thats it. Windows 7 is now running on my Dell Mini9 and I will see how it works and keep posting back on the progress, and how it works from day to day.

 

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Reader Comments (13)

Does this works on a mini 9 with 1Gb RAM and 8GB solid state drive?

January 29, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRaxs

Yes it does. That is actually the one I have. Sorry I did not include the specs of the machine.

January 30, 2009 | Registered CommenterMyOrangeIT

What about 512 K ram?
I guess we'll find out won't we.
Win7 is purported to run on such.
Thanks for the info, best and only I've found so far.

March 18, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTheano

Alas this did not work on the Mini 9 with 512 mb RAM. I'm not sure if RAM is the issue, as others have reported that Windows 7 installed ok on 512 mb machines (although I haven't seen this reported for a Mini 9 per se).

Anyway it went through the entire installation and all worked great until "Completing Installation." At that point it said my hardware was not supported.

I had to format the HD to get room for Windows, so now I have to replace XP. So sad.

March 27, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTheano

There is always Ubuntu right? If all you do is surf the web with your NetBook, it might not be a bad option. http://www.ubuntu.com

March 28, 2009 | Registered CommenterMyOrangeIT

The main thing I want to do is plug in my smartcard reader so I can access my work machines thru terminal serv gateway. i know win 7 has the cardman drivers, pretty sure xp doesn't, don't know for ubuntu.

Do you have any feedback about vlite? People are saying it was my 8 gb ssd that was at fault - too small to create the hibernation & paging files at the end. That makes sense... but you were able to install with an 8 gb drive, but you have 1 gb RAM, so probably an interaction there... I need one or the other.

Another option is to use vlite to take away the hibernation from the install...

March 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTheano

Success! I used a 1.3gb vlite install from instructions here: http://www.multimolti.de/blog/2009/01/09/shrink-windows-7-to-fit-on-asus-eee-pc-4gb-sdd/ and otherwise used your instrux. Some of my USB sticks seem to be bad and wouldn't respond to diskpart, but finally got one to work. Yours is easier & quicker than the process at that other link. Also, you don't need the WAIK dl and install to run vlite 2.0, just install vlite 1.16 first, the dlls are there.

My mini 9 is 512MB ram and 8gb hdd and there are 2.5 gb left after installation. I had to hand install some of the old Dell drivers like for my mobile broadband card. Left with 3 "unknown" devices w/o drivers, but everything seems to be working. It is running Aero! which I don't know if it should, but I'm "letting Windows decide" and I guess it wants to. Looks so good.

One probable shipstopper: I used the suggested vlite config, added back a couple items that I knew I needed like Smartcard support, but my Remote Desktop now does not have TS gateway server capability. That is my primary user scenario, so I might have to start all over. Hopefully it will be easier the 2nd time. Today I might rest and be grateful for what I have.

March 29, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTheano

I've read elsewhere on the web that windows 7 will not install on an 8gb SSD. On 8gb ssd, it will run through the install process then say that the hardware is not supported.

Are you sure that the 8gb ssd is supported? If so, did you have to compress your hard drive and how much disk space do you have left?

April 24, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMini9 Fan

Works fine on mine, I am posting this comment from it.

April 24, 2009 | Registered CommenterMyOrangeIT

UPDATE: I just installed the new RC on my Dell Mini9 Netbook, and the procedure above worked great once more. However, I think if you still have the memory stick with the old beta on it, you could just delete everything and skip the "format fs=fat32" portion because on my 8GB stick it takes more than 30 minutes. That would save some time. It's worth a try possibly...

May 8, 2009 | Registered CommenterMyOrangeIT

I got the beta to install on 8gb hd by using the vlite program (free download). There are links on the web how to do it. You remove certain things from the installation such as the languages, that makes the installation about 1.3gb in size and then it will install. The Win7 beta mostly worked great, although there were a couple of features I missed. It is still a mystery to me though, how OrangeTechMan got it to fit on 8gb without vliting it. But it could be because he had more RAM to use for a paging file. I only had 512 mb.

For the RC I put a new 16 gb SSD and 2 gb RAM into my mini 9. The installation was super-easy. The Runcore SSD was $64 and the RAM was $25. Of course that was about as much as I paid for the mini 9 in the first place, but I like not having to worry so much about space. And I still have the old ones to use for backup. The RC installed easily onto the mini 9 with no customization required. There is about 6-7 gb space remaining on the SSD. I basically only use the mini 9 for Terminal Serv to my desktop computer so it doesn't really matter, but I will probably put Office on it. I adore that little computer. I use it and love it much more than I thought I would.

May 22, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTheano

I DID have 1GB of RAM. But now I maxed it out to 2GB for the RC. It only cost like $25 or something, I thought it was worth it.

May 22, 2009 | Registered CommenterMyOrangeIT

Here is a TOOL that does it all for you:

http://www.askvg.com/a-bootable-usb-utility-to-create-bootable-usb-drive-to-install-windows-vista-server-2008-and-7

July 22, 2009 | Registered CommenterMyOrangeIT

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